Feedback from ian regarding the whole project statement & thingies:
" the overriding desire for transparency is ok, but the building must be buildable, u must b sure that it is structurally sound, and the amount of framing u use will be the thing that will be questioned. i mean it will have to relate to how much non-transparency it contributes, and sometimes "see all, all the time from anywhere" is not as interesting as "see some, see sometimes, see from somewhere, not everywhere" so that we will be enticed to want to see more and see again. it looks like you have a cross btw installation art and a landscape structure. That's ok if there's enough enclosure (enclosed spaces) where and if it is needed."
then...
ks says:
just read ur feedback
ks says:
ya.. the amount of framing does contributes to being some level of visual obstacle, so it's not actually 100% transparent because as u move around the building, the frames block ur vision at diff angles
ks says:
transparency is achieved by not having immediate walls etc, but doesnt mean there's no visual obstacle that is formed further away from the spaces
ks says:
so there is this quality of see some, see sometimes, see at different angles
ks says:
anyway, a couple of non-transparent enclosed programes do exist in here.... the toilet m&e and gallery(half half but definitely not letting the public to see it through) la....
endorphIAN says:
ok, as long as u understand the value of opacity and translucency for visual purposes
endorphIAN says:
and acoustic separation where required and desired
endorphIAN says:
so that you have a variety of spaces in terms of acoustic as well as physical privacy
endorphIAN says:
and also try to have an overlay or merging of "off-xyz" axes
endorphIAN says:
onto the xyz axis of your frames
ks says:
there is... a little bit
endorphIAN says:
so that it has an element of escape from the "restrictiveness" of the frames
endorphIAN says:
little bit may not be enough to make a statement
endorphIAN says:
may be a bit too static
ks says:
yeah ... but i've never really wanted to do that, though i understand it's effect
ks says:
because i tot i've already made the frames tranforming, so there may not need to hav the opposite element transforming like that again
ks says:
else i'd question myself what is the active n wut is the passive.
ks says:
so.. it's kind of contradicting if both tries to escape from one another
endorphIAN says:
you odi have curves which gets away from xyz
endorphIAN says:
you can take that further and let the curves actually slither away from the xyz in a more definite way
endorphIAN says:
there can be multilayers of msg
endorphIAN says:
sometimes u can't be too subtle
endorphIAN says:
cos it may get too cerebral
endorphIAN says:
and the children of lesser gods dun get it
ks says:
just read ur feedback
ks says:
ya.. the amount of framing does contributes to being some level of visual obstacle, so it's not actually 100% transparent because as u move around the building, the frames block ur vision at diff angles
ks says:
transparency is achieved by not having immediate walls etc, but doesnt mean there's no visual obstacle that is formed further away from the spaces
ks says:
so there is this quality of see some, see sometimes, see at different angles
ks says:
anyway, a couple of non-transparent enclosed programes do exist in here.... the toilet m&e and gallery(half half but definitely not letting the public to see it through) la....
endorphIAN says:
ok, as long as u understand the value of opacity and translucency for visual purposes
endorphIAN says:
and acoustic separation where required and desired
endorphIAN says:
so that you have a variety of spaces in terms of acoustic as well as physical privacy
endorphIAN says:
and also try to have an overlay or merging of "off-xyz" axes
endorphIAN says:
onto the xyz axis of your frames
ks says:
there is... a little bit
endorphIAN says:
so that it has an element of escape from the "restrictiveness" of the frames
endorphIAN says:
little bit may not be enough to make a statement
endorphIAN says:
may be a bit too static
ks says:
yeah ... but i've never really wanted to do that, though i understand it's effect
ks says:
because i tot i've already made the frames tranforming, so there may not need to hav the opposite element transforming like that again
ks says:
else i'd question myself what is the active n wut is the passive.
ks says:
so.. it's kind of contradicting if both tries to escape from one another
endorphIAN says:
you odi have curves which gets away from xyz
endorphIAN says:
you can take that further and let the curves actually slither away from the xyz in a more definite way
endorphIAN says:
there can be multilayers of msg
endorphIAN says:
sometimes u can't be too subtle
endorphIAN says:
cos it may get too cerebral
endorphIAN says:
and the children of lesser gods dun get it
that's bout it, just don't forget that we have to consider ourselves presenting to a range of ppl from primary school kids to Norman Foster, and make them all understand! darn it's hard..
Good luck
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